'Near Riot' at McDonald's Follows Plainfield North-Plainfield East Game

Police estimate that nearly 300 students filled the restaurant and parking lot Tuesday night in a clash that led to two arrests.

More than 300 high school students created a "near riot situation" at a Tuesday night following a rivalry basketball game between Plainfield East and Plainfield North.

Plainfield Sgt. Mike Fisher described an out-of-control scene in which chanting students were packed shoulder-to-shoulder inside the restaurant at 12501 S. Route 59, just north of 127th Street, and took over the adjoining parking lot.

"If I had to give a rough guesstimate, I'd say there were at least 150 kids inside," Fisher said. "I couldn't get through to get to the crowd without having to push people aside."

Police took two students into custody on charges of disorderly conduct, which prompted the crowd to break up, he said. One student arrested by Fisher was standing on a restaurant table, "chanting and riling up his side," Fisher said.

"If we hadn't been there, something bad would have happened," he said.

Students have gathered at this particular McDonald's in the past after rivalry games, and police knew the situation could become dangerous Tuesday night when a technical foul during the game prompted students on both sides to start chanting, "Meet at McDonald's," he said.

The foul occurred when a student scored in a slam-dunk play, and "looked like he chest-bumped a North player when he came down," Fisher said. The East student was given a technical foul, he said, but it did little to calm North students who were angered by the play and the fact that their team was beaten 76-48.

Fisher said he and another officer left the game about 20 minutes early in the hope they could control potential problems at the restaurant.

It was to little effect, however. By 9 p.m., he said, the parking lot was full and kids were spilling over on to neighboring property. All eight Plainfield officers working Tuesday night were called to the scene.

Fisher said the has been frustrated with this particular McDonald's, which is corporate owned, because it has been "resistant to taking action" on nights when rival teams face off in sporting events, despite knowing the restaurant is a post-game gathering place for both sides.

The police, for example, have suggested the restaurant close its lobby and only operate the drive-through window on game nights, but have gotten no response from McDonald's corporate officials in Oak Brook. He described the managers as "very passive" in terms of doing anything beyond following corporate rules.

Police have requested McDonald's surveillance camera videotape from a previous post-game gathering, and will ask for the videos from Tuesday night as well, Fisher said.

It's hoped they can use the tapes to persuade corporate officials to take proactive steps to head off future problems and to educate school officials about the post-game problems, he said.

Editor's note: A previous version of this story included an incorrect score for the Plainfield North-Plainfield East game.

HMDWS February 08, 2012 at 05:46 PM
Julie - If you don't think the higher taxes of others are subsidizing the education of your children..you can't perform simple math. Facts are facts...but why let those get in the way, right?
Jeff bledsoe February 08, 2012 at 05:59 PM
Or let's not forget the sexting scandal at east eaither or the teacher doing a student at north so we all have something bad in our school so just drop the bull shit and it's sports let the kids yell at other kids so what they are getting loud to cheer on their team like last night when north crazies stormed the court after loosing by 33 or what ever who cares its just them having fun
Patrick February 08, 2012 at 06:03 PM
Wow!!! I can't believe this is happening in Plainfield. I could understand if it was happening in Chicago!!! Wow!! I'm sorry for the insult Chicago!! I was just giving an example!! Our kids acted worse than people in Chicago!! Whether it is Northside, Eastside, Westside or Southside of Plainfield. The kids here in Plainfield are given a better life than kids in Chicago!! Perhaps too good of a life!!! This was all over a basket ball game!!! I think all these parents need to really address this with there kids!! I hope there weren't innocent customers involved as bystanders and I'm glad no one was hurt!!! Closing McDonalds is not the answer. They run a business!! They shouldn't have to deal with this BS!!! The answer is discipline all your kids!!! Make them all do community service prodjects or something that makes them realize how good they really have it here. So they won't be acting like IDIOTS in public over a stupid game!!!
Plainfield'sAJoke February 08, 2012 at 06:05 PM
Parents need to stop crying, mcd's employees are a joke, and this article is almost completely false. Score 1 for Plainfield Patch... not. By the way, Karen Sorenson sucks at writing.
Jeff bledsoe February 08, 2012 at 06:05 PM
And mcdonalds employe it wasn't even north kids fighting it was graduated students coming back for a fight so dont sit there and laugh at the fact you no nothing bout who fought so get your shit right before you say shit
Julie Ferenzi February 08, 2012 at 06:05 PM
Then I guess since that's how it works, according to you, those who no longer have children utilizing the district... are, gasp, subsidizing yours :o) And this will really tick you off, I have SIX kids! I'm really going to suck the well dry. You'll probably want to move now before my next one starts school. But maybe all the taxes on merchandise I buy in the community, and at local businesses, will make up for my drain on society. I mean, I am from the south side of Plainfield and all, so I know it's unlikely that I have any expendable income because we are all poor over here. And let's not count the investment properties I have owned and the times I was paying taxes on MULTIPLE properties. Yeah, that stuff doesn't count. Thanks North-sider! You're so much smarter and better than me! Oh, and richer too!
Barb February 08, 2012 at 06:06 PM
Kimberly - Everyone pays the same % of taxes to the PSD202 District. If your house is worth more - you pay more - plain and simple. Sometimes your house is worth more than your neighbors, sometimes it's worth less. Virtually no one pays the exact same amount. You talk of kids getting a good education - but don't seem to giving good lessons with your sterotyping and all. Julie - Go Cougars!!!
Tiger pride February 09, 2012 at 02:41 PM
All of you parents are so dumb...you say how "the kids on the north side are all snobs and daddy pays for everything and blah blah blah", yet you live right down the street from us in THE LAKELANDS. Every school has some kids who drive nice cars or have nice purses, but every school has that. Don't be actin like your kids are the "holy children"...obviously If things were being said, there was a reason behind it. It takes two to tango. Your kid ain't as innocent as you think. this is all bullshit. The cops and newspaper blew this way out of proportion. I was there, there was no fighting, no "riot", and the kid that was detained (not arrested) was standing on the ground. I have that shit on video. It's all you parents starting shit that's the problem in this town. Let the kids be kids! Let them have rivalries! Nobody was hurt last night, so get over it and stop with this "north side" "east side" shit. Because technically you're on the north side too.
Linda Kay February 09, 2012 at 02:51 PM
Roger - were you at the game? Judie's description is spot on! Not only did this player display horrible sportsmanship, but prior to that incident where he was dunked on (poor baby), he was pulled out of the game for pushing and trying to incite a fight! He clearly HAS ISSUES! I'm hoping his parents or someone who cares about him, addresses that. Clearly, his coach is clueless!!
Plfdmom February 09, 2012 at 04:46 PM
Carol, I love your comment "quit treating them (PEHS) like the step children of Plainfield." It's SO true!! My kids go to North and that's how I feel too!! Take for instance Homecoming...have you noticed that the banners displayed downtown Plainfield during Homecoming are green and white for Central and that the parade is ALWAYS on the Saturday of Central's Homecoming week?! Why not have the parade on the Saturday of East's or North's Homecoming week? Homecoming week in this town seems to only cater to Central, and it's a shame.
Plfdmom February 09, 2012 at 04:53 PM
Apparently these East parents weren't at the game against North and East when it was held at North in January. East's coach made a fool of himself!! Talk about poor sportsmanship!! He was stomping his feet, pounding his fists, and yelling at the ref. The players from East had to restrain him and pull him off the floor for heaven's sake!! Clearly the player from East on Tuesday did something wrong because he got a technical foul!! I agree with Kimberley. You parents who think your kids can do no wrong and remain blameless are pathetic. It's obvious both schools were to blame in this incident.
Mark February 09, 2012 at 06:01 PM
The East kids were looking for trouble when they decided to go to McDonald's. That McDonald's is a well known hangout for north fans after sporting events. This started way before East even opened
Mom3 February 09, 2012 at 06:18 PM
Amen Tiger Pride!! Too bad that had to come from a kid. The parents, and yes I am a parent, need to remember WHO is in high school. It sounds as though some of these parents never left high school. There will always be rivals in town, that's ok. But all this BS about the "rich" kids, the "poor" kids, etc is such crap. All four of our schools have rich/poor, white/black, and so on. It seems as though the parents are teaching their kids what to think about the other schools. Sad!! Grow up and start acting like parents and let your kids enjoy their own HS experience!!
mario February 09, 2012 at 08:54 PM
After reading the article and the comments, I can see why we have this rivalry; it is the parents who most likely couldn't play sports and push their children to be what they couldn't be sponsored by hatred that an area of Plainfield that is valued less can beat them. As for Alex Rodriguez, if you are a senior and wrote a letter to redistrict in 1990, wow! I am impressed that you were involved and concerned for your community when you were 6 years old and petitioned for a redistrict. Kim, you sound a little bitter there, there must be a reason, maybe a daughter or son did not make the team or a past experience with a basketball boyfriend does not mean that you have to condemn the sport and the people who watch it. The battle of classes seems alive in this post and it is a shame, as most are showing lack of it. I wonder if people would say the same things if they were all face to face in a room. I doubt it. The bottom line is always respect, no matter where you live and learn from the loss and prepare and plan to do better next time
Plfdmom February 09, 2012 at 09:09 PM
Nicely said Tiger Pride!! Nicely said!!
mario February 09, 2012 at 09:28 PM
Reminds me of the good old Proviso and York rivalry. Mark to suggest that East shouldn't go to a McDonalds is wrong. Should I not go to downtown Chicago to get rib (can't get good ones around here) tips because I am white. I remember being 17 and going to Al's in Maywood for the best burger in town. There are no boundaries in this country where individuals should not be able to go, especially North Plainfield McDonalds. We call these kids gangs, they do not know what it really means to be in a gang. The ones who are causing trouble are punks, not gang members and they are most likely a reflection of what they have been taught at home. It's time for parents to start taking control and stop being a friend.
Bengalgirl February 09, 2012 at 10:07 PM
KIMBERLY!!! your insane for saying basketball attracts scum! obviously you have never been to a basketball game& your kids probably play checkers for a sport. you wouldnt know anything about basketball, the skill & dedication and heart you have to have to be good. and the achievements that can come from basketball. as a PEHS student and sister of a football and basketball player i know the heart that goes into everygame & what it means to east to be so undefeated. its a first & everyones excited and as an orange crusher. yes! were going to trash talk, chat, cheer and pump up our team, cuz its spirit and excitment and were proud!. since you have probably never been to a basketball game cuz it attracts "scum" you have no idea that the players have to shake hands at the end of the game as a sign of respect win or lose. it was a great game! as a player alot of emotion is in it, so yes some players can get hot headed, and some players get so hyped they dunk over a player and hang on the rim (which is why we got the T!!!) & dont say anything about our coach and how he acted when we played u in janurary because he had frustration from a call that wasnt fair it happens! yes east & north may have a rivarly but what high schools dont! & at one point many of us went to school together before any of the new middle schools were made! things are going to get chanted, people can eat where they want! i was their. that doesnt change how my parents raised me, i still acted with class.
Bengalgirl February 09, 2012 at 10:19 PM
.... trash talking and supporting your team is fun, maybe some times it can be blown out of porportion just like this article was but its a high school experience type of thing, which oviously your kids arn't experiencing. yes it is about how the students handle themselves in public, were not the best but you cant say were always that rowdy and oh its the parents fault! alot of the fights that may break out have nothing to do sports. by the way this has nothing to do with money, taxes and pass high school students mess up like sexting & drug usage u all sound ridiculous, because thats not a reflection of the entire school. your getting off topic and your just talking to talk especially if you werent there.. at mcdonalds or at east on tuesday. & if basketball is scum dont commment and associate yourself with this article because it alll started with a basketball game, and was tweaked into a totally different situation from there. but at the end of the day it high school, its competitive and were going to support our schools by trashtalking the other no matter if its at mcdonalds, on weber, 59 or in joliet it doesnt matter we choose where we go, what we say and we choose how we act. & what really matters is that no one was hurt and were all just one town.
Tiger pride February 09, 2012 at 10:29 PM
@bengalgirl... Why can't all of the parents just stay out of this and let us be high schoolers? Nobody has been hurt, it's just a high school rivalry. Every school has them! North and east are good competitors and we both have great athletes, so of course thrres gonna be some rivalry. Plus we're right down the street from each other! I find it absurd that all of these parents are freaking out because some kids went to McDonald's to eat, and there ended up being some chanting AFTER the cops came and provoked the kids. What kid isn't gonna join in school pride? And they can say that our parents didn't raise us right or whatever, but what the hell do they know? They're stereotryping both east and north, and it's bullshit. East and north both get along with each other perfectly fine, we don't hurt each other. It's just some healthy competition. These parents get way too involved now a days. Let your kids be kids and enjoy they're high school years! They only live once. It's not like they were high or drunk at McDonalds and fighting... They were just gettin together!
eastsidepride February 09, 2012 at 10:35 PM
Look at all these parents going at eachother over a COMPUTER, at least their kids confronted eachother face to face... lol get a life people
Tiger pride February 09, 2012 at 10:36 PM
And to say that we have "no class" is insane. That's called stereotyping, and that's part of YOU PARENTS having no class. Leave us kids alone. And grow the hell up
Tiger pride February 09, 2012 at 10:37 PM
@eastsidepride hahaha right?! Parents are more immature than us kids...
Bengalgirl February 09, 2012 at 10:54 PM
hahah @ tiger pride & eastsidepride.. i guess our parents jst raised us better, to kno how to handle things:) parents on her cyberbullying each other lol.
PlnfldMom February 10, 2012 at 12:14 AM
Bravo to Bengalgirl, Tiger Pride and eastsidepride. It's very interesting to see that the most mature comments on this thread have come from the "out of control" teenagers who "need to be handled by their parents". For the adults who are going at each other back and forth like this... Wow. How are you going to sit there and attack each other and then turn around and say the kids are wrong?
Tired of Gov't February 10, 2012 at 01:04 AM
Sounds as if the Mayor needs to reprimand and re-train his Officers. I expect the media to blow this out of proportion to sell papers. However police officers that resort to verbal abuse and expletives have already lost any semblance of control.
Just A Friend February 10, 2012 at 02:00 AM
Linda, You make your point enough without the caps and rude comment "(poor baby)" Really?.. I am a personal friend of #1 on the team. I interact with him on a daily basis. I am a friend to him and I can tell both you and "judie" that you are blowing this out of proportion and am disgusted you can make accusations about someone who you saw two hours worth of intense basketball like that. Especially if you are a parent, attacking a teenager like that is wrong on a post that has nothing to do about during the game.
Hugo February 10, 2012 at 05:01 AM
>>And mcdonalds employe it wasn't even north kids fighting it was graduated students coming back for a fight... So it's not all harmless chanting? Man, you kids need to get your stories straight. Try to re-group for next week and have a cohesive story.
Tigerdude February 10, 2012 at 06:35 PM
This is ridiculous. I love how all these parents act like they didn't talk crap to other schools when they were in high school and they never acted this way. We didn't do anything wrong at all. Everyone between the schools are friends, we don't hate eachother. Sure, we get competitive at sports but what school doesn't? Im from north, and I can honestly say none of us expected to win Tuesday. We just went to support the guys and see our friends at east. You parents act like the schools are sooo different, when were really not. They're rich and poor kids at every school. So stop stereotyping students. Also, no one was going to get like stabbed or something Tuesday. You act like we were going to shoot eachother. We were taunting eachother, but not enough to provoke the other school to get mad. These parents need to relax and stop judging us.
Hugo February 11, 2012 at 01:54 PM
See, little boy, it's not all about you. It's about what a private business considers acceptable conduct on their own property. A defense to unacceptable behavior is not: "At least we werent' doing something WORSE!"
Brenda Cornejo February 20, 2012 at 03:56 AM
As a Plainfield Central senior that regularly attends basketball games, I have to say that even though rivalries are what make the games more exciting and entertaining, there's a limit. As an athlete (2 years of volleyball, 1 year of tennis, and 4 years of badminton) I can say that all the coaches I've had hold sportsmanship of high importance. I'm sorry that students from District 202 make us all look immature and out of control, that obviously isn't the case. At these games, I always hear students in the stands talking excitedly about "a fight" they heard is going to happen at (it never fails to be) McDonald's, and all I can think is "That's got trouble written all over it." As for different high schools having their stereotypes, some of them apply to a small part of the population, but overall, pregnancies, drug and alcohol use, and poor academic standing are issues that happen to all schools, and it is ignorant to identify a school by them. Every year it fails that there are a small number of students that ruin the good things for everyone else, and I really hope this won't be the cause of another privilege taken away. I shake my head at my peers who are unable to limit their emotions and recognize that basketball games are just sporting events. I know for a fact the district has made "leaders" in each superfan section from each school meet for lunch and agree to try to keep things under control, and hopefully that will stay in affect for the future.


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