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Should Student Athletes Pay to Play in Plainfield?

Plainfield School District 202 considers what to do about students who don't pay athletic or club fees; one option could mean students will be forced to withdraw from their sport.

The Plainfield School District 202 school board and administration are considering options when it comes to student athletes who do not pay for the sport they play.

This year, the district issued $350,000 in fees for high school students who participate in athletics or clubs, and nearly half, or $172,000, of those fees still have not been paid, said Angela Smith, the district’s assistant superintendent for business and operations.

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For the district’s four football teams alone, $40,000 out of $87,000 in fees issued has not been collected, Smith said.

Supt. John Harper said those families who have not demonstrated any financial hardship, who do not qualify for waivers or who have not asked for a payment plan option are slighting the district.

“It’s sending the wrong message to families who are paying the fees,” Harper said, adding that the district is financially struggling right now and funds are used to pay for coaches, equipment and more.

Fee waivers are granted for low-income families whose students qualify for a free lunch. Students who qualify for the reduced lunch plan receive a half-fee waiver, and hardship waivers for those who do not qualify based on income are reviewed on a case-by-case basis.

Students whose families ignore the activity or sports fee, or make no attempt to set up a payment plan, may be forced to withdraw from the sport in the future.

School board members made no decision at their meeting Monday night, but said they need to work out a plan that doesn’t punish students or their team.

“In no way are we looking to penalize children whose families are eligible for free and reduced lunch or who will work out a payment plan,” Harper said.

Harper said making athletes “pay to play” seems reasonable.

Board members discussed how to collect these fees when approving the proposed fee schedule for the 2013-14 school year.

While most fees will stay the same as the 2012-13 school year, a few fees are going to rise. The fee for second, third and fifth grade will increase $3 because it now includes a planner, while fourth grade’s fee rises $7 for the cost of the planner and a musical recorder.

The cost of driver’s education for district students rises from $200 to $250 for the 2013-14 school year because of reduced state funding. The cost increase for drivers’ education does not affect students who are enrolled this upcoming summer, officials said.

All fees must be paid for middle school students to participate in graduation, and all fees have to be paid for high school students to buy a parking permit, schedule behind the wheel drivers’ education time, buy prom tickets or walk in graduation ceremonies, officials said.

Related: Plainfield Schools to Go After Income Tax Refunds of Delinquent Families

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John Roberts January 30, 2013 at 02:34 pm
Lol and who makes these exceptions? The teachers,the schools, thats who gives them the exceptions..And why do they do this? 2 reasons... 1 being they do not want a team losing because their players are not getting the grades...And second the teachers and the schools are being harassed by the Federal Government for not being up to their standards...Now...you keep sports separate from the schools..it does not matter e grades it matters the parenting weather or no thou let your kid play for his or her grades,All the hard work the team does the credit goes to them and their team...Not the school who does what they can to have a team...You. Think all of the kids that pass just passed..no you get 100 extra credit points for answering a question,bringing something in,or just writing your name on the paper...why this extra credit? So they pass...
John Roberts January 30, 2013 at 02:43 pm
Entitled parents..lmao yep your entitled until your job moves over seas,or goes bankrupt..lol How naive can you be there buddy..you only afford the price because you have a job.lol ..living in a subdivision,no land your soul dependency is on money..if your means of getting money get some gone then your so called entitlements are gone too..my point was the school get the money from concessions,it gets popularity,it gets credits for the wins,and titles,trophies,..from the hard work of the students...know why some o the athletes that could of blown some of the star athletes away in a second are not on the teams?..Money..A little piece of paper..you do not know the situations of other parents obviously nor take into consideration thier costs of living..This is what happens when the "entitled" forget about the rest of the people...
Jerry January 30, 2013 at 02:52 pm
Hey John, tell you what...I'm going to stop commenting on articles that you're commenting on. You have such a lack of understanding of the points others are trying to make and you are so quick to look for an argument where there is none, that the points get lost. I'm not sure how anyone could read the response I made and make any of the assumptions and misinterpretations that you did. I can only assume it's intentional because sometimes you seem like a fairly intelligent, if unstable, type of person. I will let my comments stand on their own with the faith that others will understand them as they were intended. Otherwise, it's all yours sir...and I wish you well.
Rosy Scalzitti January 30, 2013 at 02:52 pm
Doesn't all fees have to be paid in order to graduate? If they don't pay the fees then they aren't allowed to attend the graduating ceremony and they should hold on to their diploma and transcripts until all fees are paid.
J Hill January 30, 2013 at 02:55 pm
I cannot believe that the board needs multiple meetings to discuss a plan for this topic. It is very simple, if you do not pay, you do not play. When is the responsibility card going to be played? Most of us are stretching our wallets these days, but that is no excuse not to pay your bill and in turn sticking it to the people who are doing the right thing. If you cannot afford the fee then you don't get too play. So many young people are growing up with this "entitlement" attitude, we are not helping to "grow-up" our young people owning their own responsibility.
Grandpamike January 30, 2013 at 03:03 pm
@john
So by your reasoning, Olympic athletes should get the credit not the country they participate for, the nfl players should get the credit not the state they play under, same for Major League Baseball and all the other sports, excepting say golf where individuals play for themselves and their sponsors ? This is about paying fees to participate in a program, and yes, they do represent their school, and since the taxes you pay to local/state entities has no money to fund arts or sports because of mismanagement, but if the parents cannot afford or don't want to pay, then their child should not be allowed to participate. Also, what does living in a specific sub-division have to do with paying or not paying ?
John Roberts January 30, 2013 at 03:08 pm
Buddy it's just a discussion..how do we ever learn anything if there is no discussions..Not saying I am right but there is a whole picture to things people choose not to look at because it gets complicated...But sorting through the complications is how we learn...Knowing how and what people think around you is all learning to me...I don't know everything but I know a little bit about a lot..Not unstable buddy I just look at the things people do not like to discuss and say things people won't or don't want to..I don't mean to offend anyone..but come on the whole "entitled" thing..lol..you commented and I replied...I do not care if people reply to my comments..That's why I posted them..For replies...good or bad...knowledge or not...
John Roberts January 30, 2013 at 03:18 pm
As I said before do you know how many kids we do not call athletes because they could not afford to play that would blow most if not all of the "Star"athletes away...now who pays for the NFL players? The team or the franchise and owners...Is your students being paid? Who pays for the Olympic Team...the team or do they get Federal and Local Fundin through sponsorship?....Here is my point..Know kids from when I was in school that when we played basketball and other sport just mowed over the schools best basketball members and other players...Thatbran faster than the fastest kid on the track team,jump farther than the long distance jumper we had on the team...Why? All because of the "Activity fees" kids who parent s are addicted to bad drugs most of thoes kids do not get on the teams...kids who only have one parent because of death of one or just a walk out deadbeat parents..Thoes kids will not get to play much either..it's hard for them now to get on the team because of money situations let alone jacking things up even more..Now weather or not they "make the team" should all be a determination of thier own will power and playing..
Jerry January 30, 2013 at 03:20 pm
Okay John, your statements ridiculing the "entitlement thing" illustrate my point. You are mocking those statements as though I presented the entitlement attitude as a good thing or endorsed it as an excuse for this behavior which is exactly the opposite of the point that was clearly being made in my post. So I will be clear...entitlement by parents = entitled children = BAD.
Now, take it out of the context of sports and broaden it to where it really needs to be...extra curricular activities. If this was band, or drama, or the art club...the schools get no benefit to speak of from these activities yet the students are allowed to participate without fees being paid just like the football players. It's not a "sports" problem, it's a policy problem that is system wide. And the policy is very easy to fix...no pay, no participation. Why does this have to be hard?
Max January 30, 2013 at 03:23 pm
John Roberts,
Looks like you're looking for excuses not to pay what is due. Is this your life philosophy? Let me ask you a question: do you or have you had kids in Plainfield schools and did you fully pay your school fees? If not then you are part of the problem and I have no respect for you. If you are, how can you have any respect for those who don't. This is impacting all our children's education.
John Roberts January 30, 2013 at 03:28 pm
Sub division living is not independent living..You souly depend on money..If you do not grow your own food,raise your own meats,provide your own electricity,and have a well..then your whole existence is on the reliability of money and where you get it...Your job gives you money..If your bothered,or crippled by the stock market or your life is just shaken by and economic collapse then your dependency was on money...Now if your doing great that fine..but there are people out there that you know not doing so great but do a great deal of hiding it..Parents working 2 jobs each no time for family and still barely making it because they bought a house in a place where they thought it was a better place to raise kids and now have no money for anything else...these kids are effected...Keeping kids occupied and moving is what keeps them too occupied with gang bangin,selling or doing drugs...or doing something that will land them in prison..Too much revolves around money and that in its self complicates things..If you do not live off the grid then you pay for all of your living costs,Gas,lights,water,rent,house payment,food,clothes,hygiene products..and as these costs go up so will your dependency on money and as you need more money for these things you have less to spare...is what point I was trying to make about subdivision living..
John Roberts January 30, 2013 at 03:35 pm
Because money leaves people who can be great at things in the bleachers wishing they could be there...money a piece of man made paper with pictures on it...money to play is not based around how a kid plays..it will be based more and more which parents payed and how much,once you set a rate what happens to rates?...they go up year by year by year..and almost never go down..now as more and more money is paid this will be a basis for playing and not the skills of the students...this point can not be over looked...
John Roberts January 30, 2013 at 03:47 pm
@ Max..I have 3 kids nother not in Plainfield schools..but what one school does it seem to track to other schools..Yes all of my kids fees are paid...I make $32 and hour and 2 of my kids were CNA's before they left high school..Know what impacts your kids education the most buddy? Money..and do you know how? Schools that recieve federal money have standards to meet from federal government,Also have standards set by State regulations..Any school that accepts these grants are under ese restrictions..Teachers doctoring up kids homework,and tests and giving extra credit for the stupidest things all revolves around Federal and local government getting on the facilities and teachers with kids that almost today have no home training which brings us back to the 2 parents working all day everyday...and just to let you know do you know what I am quoted the most by my kids for saying?.."If you ever feel down or bad about yourself like life is going no where..Help someone and you will see how much your worth"...and do you know I have heard my kids telling their friends the same thing....Respect me or not..don't really matter it's the point of money stopping great athletes from being athletes...and only letting thoes who can pay become athletes..we shut out a lot of talent in all subjects because of money...Is only point I was trying to make..
John Roberts January 30, 2013 at 03:56 pm
Exactly my point "struggle to pay"this means parents who struggle more than you that have kids that would just kick but in the sports and bring home trophies and titles and give a great image to the place where they live do not play,...Just think if you struggled any more and could not afford to pay the chance,the feeling of belonging to something,the gaining of will power to continue..would be taken away...This in its self gives the kids a message that even though you might be great if you or someone you know does not have the money..then no matter how great..it does not matter...Money Matters most...
John Roberts January 30, 2013 at 04:01 pm
From the comments on here it is very clear to see...Money is the most important thing..Not the skills of the students...This is the Problem with all of Society...Money,How to get it,where to get it,when to get it,what to do with it....we spend more time figuring money than we do living..We take more from people and hurt the world all because of money..Keep on keeping on and we will all continue to suffer...These are children who right now need a feeling of belonging,need encouragement,and a boost of self esteem and we take it all away for money...
Max January 30, 2013 at 04:12 pm
John,
All I hear from you is money, money, money... Yes, it's about money. It's also about parents living up to their responsibilities and setting a good example for their kids.
Jerry January 30, 2013 at 04:13 pm
John, the part of this that you are choosing to ignore, is that families that have demonstrated a need by qualifying for the free lunch program don't have to pay these fees. Students who qualify for reduced lunch have their activity fees cut in half. Families who don't participate in these lunch programs can have their case reviewed to see if they qualify for reduced activity fees. This is all aimed at the families that CAN afford to pay but CHOOSE not to.
BitterBluePoison January 30, 2013 at 04:31 pm
Plain and simple...No Pay...No Play! Get outta heeah. (sic)
Gabrielle Smith January 30, 2013 at 06:54 pm
Simple....if you can afford to pay then pay. If you have financial hardships, file the correct paperwork and your fees are either cut in half or waived. I know families who pay the big bucks for travel/club teams and private voice/music lessons but do not pay the school activities. And the schools continue to let these kids participate year after year. And look at what these kids in Plainfield have--the newest smartphones, the latest and greatest Nike footwear, laptops, etc. And their parents don't pay their sports/activities fees? I have four kids in the Plainfield schools with two in high school. If I could not pay for their sports/activities and did not qualify for reduced fees, I would get my kids to babysit, mow lawns, walk dogs, etc. to earn the money to pay for their fees which are actually quite reasonable.
John Roberts January 30, 2013 at 07:07 pm
I totally understand the situation ,and the parents not paying..but money effects the kids ability to play either way..
John Roberts January 30, 2013 at 07:13 pm
Mine and your definitions of "setting a good example" differ...I do not think making everything all about money is a good example..
Jerry January 30, 2013 at 07:28 pm
No, John, really it doesn't. If the kids whose family have a need are getting the fees reduced or waived and it's only the parents who CAN pay but CHOOSE not to, how is this effecting the ability of the kids to play? Are you suggesting that the kids whose parents are deadbeats and refuse to pay (or take the steps needed to have the fines reduced or waived) should be given a pass and allowed to play anyway?
brian January 30, 2013 at 07:57 pm
I would love to see a list of the non-paying dregs' names printed in the paper for all to see.
Rev January 30, 2013 at 07:58 pm
Parents should pay 100% of all non-school related activities.
Sports Music Acting Whatever. If the parents cannot afford to pay, then the kid don't play, that simple. I should not have to support these activities.
Jerry January 30, 2013 at 08:05 pm
I think the way it is supposed to be run would be fine, but it needs to be enforced. It's fair that reductions and waivers be available on an as-needed basis. To just say that if parents can't pay 100% of the fee the kid doesn't participate is to create a system that is punitive to the kids for something that is not their doing and they have no control over. Rev, it's not a far leap then to say that you shouldn't have to pay for other kids' education either...so if you don't have kids in the district you shouldn't have to pay taxes to fund the school district? It's a slippery slope, and in our society the "haves" are always going to foot the bill for the "have nots".
Zaney January 30, 2013 at 08:15 pm
I would like to know what steps are put into place for parents who do not pay the school fees - not sports fees. Do they go after them?
MidwestGal January 30, 2013 at 08:25 pm
I just read about those delightful people -(believe me, I've seen the cars, phones and jewelery these nonpayers have - many BRAG about never paying the district fees) despite the districts attempts to lower fees, make no-interest payment schedules and work the families the district is now $1milllion in the hole. They are trying to get the state of il comptroller to take it from the non-payers tax refunds. Funny, when we faced double unemployment in my house, we found a way! http://www.buglenewspapers.com/enterprise/article_026b81c8-1dfb-11e2-86f5-0019bb30f31a.html
MidwestGal January 30, 2013 at 08:27 pm
They do with tax id#s for property taxes...
Jerry January 30, 2013 at 08:51 pm
Technically, a fee is a fee as far as payment goes. The policy applies to any monies owed the district. Without a payment plan in place the student is supposedly not allowed to participate in extra curricular activities including prom, cannot participate in graduation, and their diploma and transcripts will be held pending payment.
Rev February 1, 2013 at 12:50 am
Jerry - Education benefits the community, football, acting, etc. does not. So what if the kid feels left out because the parents can't pay? Kids are not in school to feel good, they are there to learn. More schools need to remember that and focus on teaching ONLY.
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