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The 'Real' Mitt Romney

Discussion of Mitt Romney's views toward 47 percent of the population.

At a private fundraiser with a group of wealthy donors, Mitt Romney commented that 47 percent of Americans pay no taxes. 

He went on to say that they consider themselves victims and expect the government to give them food and take care of them. He also said they don’t want to accept any personal responsibility for their lives. He continued by saying that because of this, he wasn’t concerned at all about that group and was going to focus his attention on the independent voters. 

It seems to me that this and other statements he made at the same fundraiser present the “real” Mitt Romney, a man born into money, a man who has never had to worry about healthcare or income or anything else that so many Americans have to worry about on a daily basis, a man who has no concept of how many, many Americans live.

Within that 47 percent of Americans are elderly people trying to live on a fixed income, disabled people who are physically unable to work, a large number of working people whose incomes are so low that after basic deductions they have no income tax liability and a large number of people who live in or very close to poverty. I think it’s extremely revealing that while he presents himself as someone who wants to represent all Americans and help to get people back to work, when he’s with his wealthy constituents, he shows that he has nothing but contempt for almost half of the American population.

It’s interesting for another reason as well. For him and for other wealthy Americans, the tax code is ideal in that it gives them all kinds of ways to hide money or otherwise avoid paying taxes. The devices he uses to avoid taxes are perfectly legal, and I certainly don’t fault him for using them. 

At the same time, many of those in the 47 percent that he lumps in a group of people who demand entitlements pay little or no taxes because they are able to utilize exemptions and tax breaks that reduce their incomes to below taxable level. It seems to me that if it’s OK for Mitt Romney to take advantage of the tax code, then it’s OK for everyone else as well.

Finally, Mitt Romney made his comments as a blanket statement, saying that these people pay no taxes. He did not recognize that they pay sales taxes, gasoline taxes, state income taxes, real estate taxes, etc., and they pay payroll taxes for Social Security and Medicare. 

While there probably are leeches in the system, I think it is profoundly arrogant and profoundly insulting to place 47 percent of the American population in that category.

Do we really want someone who actually thinks this way to occupy the White House? Think about it.

Chuck Teeter

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Mike Schauer September 19, 2012 at 01:04 PM
And just who is Mitt Romney talking about when he mentions the 47%. Of course when he made this ridiculous statement he was addressing a room of Millionaires. So you can see just where this tool is buttering his bread. Is Romney talking about the impoverished veteran,who has done his work in hero like fashion,who now cn't find a job,or has to use a V.A. hospital at the taxpayers expense. Or maybe he is talking about the ederly widow as she struggles to eat or to pay for her medication.. Romney's statement is an insult to every American citizens,and shows just how out of touch he is with mainstream america. All Romney has to look is look in the past to Ronald Reagan,who passed tax laws,so that the working poor,$15,000.00 don't pay any income tax. And just what percetage did Romney pay,13%. "My Job is Not to worry about those people". And this guy wants to be president,for who,the 1%,forget the rest os us. Good luck Romney!!!!
Mike Check September 19, 2012 at 01:59 PM
This article is a joke
Tom Nosal September 19, 2012 at 02:32 PM
I wonder if some of the 47% who don't pay taxes he is refering to are Haliburton, Accenture, Ingersoll-Rand and other major U.S. Companies who have "off-shored" their headquarters to different contries in order to avoid U.S taxes? Nah. Can't be them. Surely he wouldn't receive political contributions from companies such as these.
Tom Koz September 19, 2012 at 02:36 PM
"Do we really want someone who actually thinks this way to occupy the White House? Think about it." YES !!
Steven September 19, 2012 at 02:54 PM
Mike Check – I agree, this article is an absolute joke and it amazes me at how many people twist it out of context. Granted, he didn’t use the best choice of words, but anyone that is willing to be real knows what he was referring to. For those of you that think Romney is not the individual we want to occupy the White House, I can only assume you have not seen the movie 2016. Go and see it and then share your opinions.
Jane Enviere September 19, 2012 at 03:08 PM
I am willing to be real...what amazes me is that his words are shocking to anyone. Did anyone actually believe that he felt any other way???
Bruce Means September 20, 2012 at 02:46 AM
Now there is a movie (2016) that is a joke. It is from the right wing Dinesh D'Souza an Indian American conservative political commentator. I agree with this review" It's the last half-hour that gets nutty. That's when D ‘Souza attempts to argue that -- hold onto your hats -- Obama got elected to his first term so he could wait four years, get elected again and then, like some Manchurian candidate, shift the world's power to Second and Third World countries. D ‘Souza trots out a few people who agree with him but it's mostly guilt-by-association. There's no supporting evidence, even if you buy the connection the filmmaker makes to Obama's father's radical dislike of colonial powers. " None of the sources in "2016" are primary; the closest D ‘Souza gets to Obama is George Obama, a distant half-brother whom D ‘Souza encourages to trash the president but who declines. That off- topic conversation does underscore one peculiarity of D'Zouza's claims that Obama is anti-American, though, since America was itself founded on anti- colonialism." Another possibility just keeps watching Fox news.
Friendly One September 20, 2012 at 12:38 PM
Get your head out of the sand, Liberals. See what Obama has done already to destroy this country. Allowing illegals to cross the borders without even trying to stop them, and once they're here allows them to freely have all the benefits of tax paying Americans. He even goes so far as to file lawsuits against states that try to protect themselves from the influx of illegals. His wealth distribution idiocy from people who actually work for a living and create jobs & his doing all he can to discourage businesses. Not to mention that Obamacare is the worst idea ever and now people who cannot afford insurance are going to have to pay an average of $1200 as a penalty. Taxes upon taxes, highest gas prices ever with no relief in sight, and you still want to vote for this man??? He is not deserving of another term. He blew it! ROMNEY/RYAN in 2012!!!
Mike Schauer September 20, 2012 at 01:48 PM
First of all there has not been a Federal Gas tax,increase since 1993.In fact the United States Federal Tax,is the lowest except for Kuwait,and Saudi Arabia.There have been calls from Forbes Magazine,and from Donald Akerson CEO ,of General Motors,that the federal Gov. should raise the tax,50 cents to 1 dollar. The Affordable HealthCare,is almost word for word,the same PatientCare Law that Mitt Romney passed and signed into law,in Mass. 2006. He said this should be the model fdor the nation. And that included,a mandate to buy insurance,or pay a penalty. Ten years of the Bush tax cut has brought us how many jobs? Every year of those tax cuts,since 2001 go directly on the National Debt. There has been a 2% cut in tax's on Social security. And just what is the Romney/Ryan plan going to do. If they are elected and are able to put their plans through congress,they will raise Middle Class tax's and Medicare will eventually unaffordable for current seniors to maintain. If one believes in our Capitalistic system,and the right to earn as much money as one can,is the premise. Then equal opportunity has to be given to the Factory worker or the ditch digger to have a voice,and the right to collective bargain for the highest wage they can possibly get. That is true capitalism.
John Tips September 20, 2012 at 05:52 PM
Made up my mind today on who shall be in the White House! I listened to both candidates and what convinced me was their views of the PAST. We are better off today then we were 4 years ago! The policies which brought down the banks, and our stock markets were in place long before this president took office! In July of 2008 our gas prices spiked to just over 4 bucks per gallon, while oil hit over $156 bucks per barrel. Today oil is just over $92.00 per barrel, and the price at the pump remains at around $4.00 Dollars! YES - we need MORE regulation here - Do the Math! There is OVER $50.00 Dollars per barrel difference between the price per barrel of oil in July 2008 and per barrel today! WHY? Do any of you remember Bernard Madoff (2008) who's Ponzi Scheme bilked investors out of $65 BILLION Dollars? Do we need government oversight of the banks and investor firms - You Bet We Do! Just imagine if under George Bush if "they" would have privatized SOCIAL SECURITY, and invested the money in stocks - we would have had NOTHING today!
John Tips September 20, 2012 at 06:03 PM
We are a part of the 47 percent - but we do pay taxes, oh do we ever pay taxes!
Mike Schauer September 20, 2012 at 06:45 PM
People seem to have short memories, as to what and who caused this financial meltdown. Enron, World ComJack Abrahamoff, Randall "Duke" Cunning ham. . Kenneth Ley of Enron, who bilked billions out of investors. He sat in on the secret energy meeting with Vice Prseident Dick Cheney. The collapse on Wall Street, cost the Middle Class taxpayers trillions of dollars. While mega banks, like J. P. Morgan/ Chase, Bank of America, and Roth Hilda. Took billions and laughed all the way back to their sacred vaults. To even think about deregulating a industry who put us in this bag is criminal
my opinion September 21, 2012 at 04:41 PM
The health care that Romney passed in a blue state. Really? My brother lives in MA, it was the house and state senate (huge majority of D's) that pushed this through. He signed it but they would have over ridden a veto. The 47% that he talked about are the people that couldn't care less if he cut taxes because they DON'T PAY INCOME TAXES. Oh yeah, its really only 46%. He was just saying that he won't be able to persuade them to vote for him. By the way, were is the missing minutes of the tape that Jimmy Carter's (formally the worst president in history, no longer true, Obama takes the cake) grandson taped. Reminds me of the watergate tapes.....the missing minutes. Want to talk about tapes, how about the Loyola tape where Obama states "I believe in redistribution".
my opinion September 21, 2012 at 05:52 PM
More Americans Added to Food Stamps Than Find Jobs........... Mhttp://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/more-americans-added-food-stamps-find-jobs_652837.html More Americans Added to Food Stamps Than Find Jobs 43+ months of 8% and higher unemployment Gas prices double what they were in 2009. Just think the state of Illinois gets more tax revenue everytime the price of fuel goes up. In IL it is a % tax, not a flat tax. - No to Keystone pipeline - embargo of off shore drilling - chevy volt, what a disaster that was - Solyndra Inc (what a waste of $40 billion to Obama's supporters) - new regulations strangling the coal industry Read the headlines the world is falling apart......especially in the mid-east. This clown is failing to support the only democracy in the mid-east, one of our most loyal allies, Israel. 100 Days Until Taxmageddon Sunday will mark the start of the 100-day countdown to “Taxmageddon” – the date the largest tax hikes in the history of America will take effect. They will hit families and small businesses in three great waves on January 1, 2013: Read more: http://atr.org/days-taxmageddon-a7203#ixzz277yEx2CE Listen and read excerpts from Bob Woodwards newest book. It just shows how inept the guy in the WH is. And everybody wants 4 more years of this?
John Roberts September 21, 2012 at 05:58 PM
There simply are not as many jobs as there are people legal or illegal.There just is not.add them up just in your area.look how many jobs there are available weather you can do them or not,any job anywhere.then look at your population and compare them.they do not add up. There is,are and always will be people out of work,who either are not qualified or unable to do it,not in location, from flipping burgers to sewing,to shipping,there are not enough positions for everyone.
my opinion September 21, 2012 at 06:13 PM
You never want less than somewhere in the area of 5% unemployment. If the economy is growing you need a work force. If Unemployment were at 3% were would you get the employees to grow your business? If it is that low it becomes a bidding war for workers (good for the workers - higher wages) which causes inflation. With that said, you certainly don't want 8%+ for over 40 months.
Tom Klimczak September 21, 2012 at 06:27 PM
Yup. After the Obama experiment, it's time for a reality check. The country's broke and has to cut spending across the board. Simple as that.
my opinion September 21, 2012 at 06:28 PM
Forgot to add that the real unemployment rate is somewhere between 10% and 14%. Higher in the African-American community. It is this higher because the Fed govrt stops counting the unemployeed when they fall off of unemployment benefits or get frustrated and stop looking for a job. This doesn't even take into account the underemployed or college grads who can't find a job and don't qualify for unemployment.
Tom Klimczak September 21, 2012 at 06:28 PM
Sad that the media still refuses to vet Obama. We know more about Romney's horses than about Barry Soetero's past. Can we at least see his college records?
Tom Klimczak September 21, 2012 at 06:29 PM
Please don't confuse liberals with facts. It makes them weepy.
Tom Klimczak September 21, 2012 at 06:31 PM
All commodities are up. Why? When you keep printing money, it makes existing dollars worth less. The largest Ponzi Scheme is also the only legal one: Social Security.
Tom Klimczak September 21, 2012 at 06:33 PM
Right you are, Mike! An over educated professor who has never even run a hot dog stand should oversee the economy. Barry should open one...in Chicago. That way he'd see his sacred regulations in action.
Nancy M September 23, 2012 at 04:54 PM
Since Obama took office, folks have gotten mad, and want to take America Back. BACK TO WHAT/BACK TO WHERE is my question? After The 8 Years Of Bush/ Cheney Disaster, Now You Get Mad? You didn't get mad when Cheney allowed Energy co. officials to dictate Energy policy and push us to invade Iraq. You didn't get mad when we spent over 800 billion on said illegal war. You didn't get mad when Bush borrowed more money from foreign sources than the previous 42 Presidents combined.You didn't get mad when Bush embraced trade and outsourcing policies that shipped 6 mill. American jobs out of the country.You didn't get mad when Bush rang up 10 trillion dollars in combined budget and current acct deficits. You didn't get mad about the horrible conditions at Walter Reed. You didn't get mad when we let New Orleans drown.You didn't get mad when we gave the 1%, over a trillion dollars in tax breaks. You didn't get mad with the worst 8 yrs of job creation in decades.You didn't get mad when lack of oversight and regs from the .Bush Admin. caused people to lose 12 trill dollars in investments, retirement, and home values. You finally got mad when a black man was elected President. Illegal wars, job losses by the millions, stealing your tax dollars to make the rich richer, and the worst economic disaster since 1929 are all okay with you. It's all true. Really, you can verify it for yourself. Oh, what did you say? Republicans aren't going to define this campaign by fact checkers? Pitiful.
Walt Wingo September 24, 2012 at 03:56 PM
Mike, the people that you say have short memories, actually have no memories. They conveniently work from a blank sheet which allows them to fill all that empty space with whatever nonsense their corporate masters want them to absorb. Facts ricochet of of them like BB's off an elephant's big fat ass (symbolism intended). The elites, Romney, Carl Rove, those people who paid $50,000 to be pandered to by Romney, laugh at and take political advantage of these fools . First the Tea Baggers were incensed at big government giving "too big to fail banks" billions to prevent a financial meltdown. Then these same people became even more incensed that big government passed some really weak regulations that would keep the government from doing again what incensed the Tea Baggers in the first place; bailing out "too big to fail banks". You almost have to feel sorry for their innocence.
Walt Wingo September 24, 2012 at 04:04 PM
Well said, Nancy. You could also add to that list the record amount of filibusters in the Senate done for only one reason, to keep Obama from a second term. Just last week the Republicans is the Senate kept a jobs bill that targeted Veterans from becoming law. Disgusting!
Mike Schauer September 24, 2012 at 08:12 PM
Short memories indeed. In Dev. Of 2008, Pres. George W.Bush stepped in to help keep the American Auto industry from bankruptcy. He announce a $17.4 billion dollar Baylor out plan."If we were to allow the free market to take it's course, it would certainly lead to disorderly bankruptcy" Bush said. " And bankruptcy now would lead to a disorderly liquidation of American auto companies. "This would deal an unacceptable painful blow to hardworking American people. It would worsen the job market and exacerbate the financial crises". " it would certainly send our suffering economy into a deeper and longer recession". And just what would have been the Romney plan, bankruptcy, loss of American jobs. Even George Bush new that could not be the course.
Edward Andrysiak September 28, 2012 at 04:24 PM
I can't get too upset with the 47% statement. In that number there are a lot of groups of people. We have the uneducated and unwilling to work anything more than the street to earn a living ripping people off, organizing gangs and selling drugs. Then there are those honestly disabled who need help but what of the free loaders whose unemployment ran out or they found a cooperating doctor and found a way to collect dissability ...for life. True as well, we will find elderly folks who didn't or couldn't save enough to carry them in retirement and need help. I could go on with more detail but you get the idea. The 47% includes people who need and are deserving and a lot of free loaders. Romney is right when he says they aren't expected to vote for him. They will go with whom ever they feel won't stop their check from coming. Romney would stop the undeserving...Obama encourages people to be in the undeserving class...cause they vote for him...the free loaders don't want help...just the check!
Edward Andrysiak September 28, 2012 at 04:41 PM
Mike...when the "bargining unit" does not understand the market, the costs of raw materials, the cost of labor, the true cost of doing business to be able to put a product out and be competative on price...when they don't know that how in the hell can they dictate wages and bennie cost increases? That is why our car industries went broke! Now, if the unit was that smart and knew all those numbers they would be in business for themselves...right. I always said there ought to be a clause in each labor contract that gives the owners the right to exercise an option requiring the unit to buy the business as an alternative to accepting the terms of the contract. It would be time for big boy pants wouldn't it.
Edward Andrysiak September 30, 2012 at 03:11 PM
Hey John...Do I need to remind you WE HAD GOVERNMENT OVERSITE during the Madoff Ponzi scheme days! That may be the problem...because so many thought the government was protecting them...they didn't do their homework and lost their "dupa." Less governmenr and more personal responsibility and we will all be better off.

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